WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.090 --> 00:00:00.923 [Shannon Ricles] Hi, everyone. 2 00:00:00.923 --> 00:00:03.360 Thank you for joining us today for our webinar 3 00:00:03.360 --> 00:00:04.620 All Along the Waterfront: 4 00:00:04.620 --> 00:00:08.613 Archeological Investigations of Chesapeake Bay Oyster Boats. 5 00:00:09.450 --> 00:00:12.030 I'm Shannon Ricles, the Education and Outreach Coordinator 6 00:00:12.030 --> 00:00:14.880 for Monitor and Mallows Bay National Marine Sanctuaries, 7 00:00:14.880 --> 00:00:16.930 and I'm going to be one of your hosts today. 8 00:00:18.480 --> 00:00:19.680 And I'm Jessie Frayser, 9 00:00:19.680 --> 00:00:21.840 the Education and Outreach Support Specialist 10 00:00:21.840 --> 00:00:24.180 for Monitor and Mallows National Marine Sanctuary, 11 00:00:24.180 --> 00:00:25.623 and I'll be your co-host. 12 00:00:29.490 --> 00:00:31.953 Hmm. There we go. 13 00:00:33.330 --> 00:00:34.740 This webinar is brought to you 14 00:00:34.740 --> 00:00:37.933 by NOAA's Monitor National Marine Sanctuary in collaboration 15 00:00:37.933 --> 00:00:42.123 with the North Carolina Office of State Archeology. 16 00:00:44.430 --> 00:00:46.980 Partnering since 1975, NOAA 17 00:00:46.980 --> 00:00:50.160 and the state of North Carolina work to research, 18 00:00:50.160 --> 00:00:53.100 honor, and protect the hallmarks of North Carolina's 19 00:00:53.100 --> 00:00:56.100 underwater cultural heritage, shipwrecks. 20 00:00:56.100 --> 00:00:58.110 These shipwrecks hold information 21 00:00:58.110 --> 00:00:59.970 about the ever-changing technologies 22 00:00:59.970 --> 00:01:02.460 and cultural and physical landscapes. 23 00:01:02.460 --> 00:01:05.790 They serve as a uniquely accessible underwater museum 24 00:01:05.790 --> 00:01:08.490 and a memorial to generations of mariners 25 00:01:08.490 --> 00:01:12.240 who lived, died, worked, and fought off our shores. 26 00:01:12.240 --> 00:01:13.770 This is one of the many webinars 27 00:01:13.770 --> 00:01:15.570 we'll be hosting in the coming months 28 00:01:15.570 --> 00:01:18.210 for the Submerged North Carolina Webinar Series 29 00:01:18.210 --> 00:01:21.240 in collaboration with the North Carolina Office 30 00:01:21.240 --> 00:01:22.623 of State Archeology. 31 00:01:26.760 --> 00:01:29.430 Monitor is just one of 15 national marine sanctuaries 32 00:01:29.430 --> 00:01:31.170 and two marine national monuments 33 00:01:31.170 --> 00:01:33.570 in the National Marine Sanctuary System. 34 00:01:33.570 --> 00:01:37.230 The system encompasses more than 620,000 square miles 35 00:01:37.230 --> 00:01:38.970 of marine and Great Lakes waters 36 00:01:38.970 --> 00:01:41.430 from Washington state to the Florida Keys 37 00:01:41.430 --> 00:01:44.520 and from Lake Huron to American Samoa. 38 00:01:44.520 --> 00:01:46.050 Now during the presentation, 39 00:01:46.050 --> 00:01:48.900 all 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provided at the end of the presentation. 53 00:02:21.120 --> 00:02:24.960 [Jessie] So now we are happy to welcome Patrick Boyle, 54 00:02:24.960 --> 00:02:29.960 a doctoral student with Texas A&M University's 55 00:02:30.270 --> 00:02:33.123 Nautical Archeological Program. 56 00:02:34.080 --> 00:02:38.013 Okay, I'm going to share the screen with you now Patrick. 57 00:02:43.824 --> 00:02:45.300 All right, is that working for you? 58 00:02:45.300 --> 00:02:46.383 That works. 59 00:02:49.410 --> 00:02:50.560 All right, excellent. 60 00:02:53.490 --> 00:02:55.350 Well, thank you for joining me today 61 00:02:55.350 --> 00:02:58.770 and thank you everyone else who's participating. 62 00:02:58.770 --> 00:02:59.610 For this presentation, 63 00:02:59.610 --> 00:03:02.490 I'll be discussing my research involving a small shipwreck 64 00:03:02.490 --> 00:03:05.430 located in the Pamlico River of North Carolina, 65 00:03:05.430 --> 00:03:07.380 which I examined for my master's thesis 66 00:03:07.380 --> 00:03:09.060 at East Carolina University 67 00:03:09.060 --> 00:03:10.800 and how that research has expanded 68 00:03:10.800 --> 00:03:14.043 into a doctoral dissertation program for a project. 69 00:03:20.790 --> 00:03:22.380 To begin, I need to discuss the history 70 00:03:22.380 --> 00:03:23.520 of the oyster fishery 71 00:03:23.520 --> 00:03:25.950 and the vessels I will be referring to. 72 00:03:25.950 --> 00:03:27.750 The historic Chesapeake Bay oyster fishery 73 00:03:27.750 --> 00:03:29.670 is significant part of the United States' 74 00:03:29.670 --> 00:03:32.820 overall maritime narrative that is well documented. 75 00:03:32.820 --> 00:03:35.460 Oysters were a vital food source for Native Americans 76 00:03:35.460 --> 00:03:37.980 and were often stockpiled for celebrations. 77 00:03:37.980 --> 00:03:40.350 European colonists survived by eating oysters 78 00:03:40.350 --> 00:03:42.570 when they exhausted their own food supplies. 79 00:03:42.570 --> 00:03:44.400 And as colonial communities developed 80 00:03:44.400 --> 00:03:45.660 in the Chesapeake Bay region, 81 00:03:45.660 --> 00:03:47.640 the oyster fishery played a fundamental part 82 00:03:47.640 --> 00:03:50.760 in its economy, expansion, and maritime history. 83 00:03:50.760 --> 00:03:53.190 The Chesapeake Bay oyster fishery is one of the largest 84 00:03:53.190 --> 00:03:54.647 and most profitable fisheries 85 00:03:54.647 --> 00:03:57.933 and is still prevalent in the coastal communities today. 86 00:03:59.130 --> 00:04:00.930 An elevated demand for oysters occurred 87 00:04:00.930 --> 00:04:02.100 in the mid 19th century, 88 00:04:02.100 --> 00:04:04.890 creating an oyster boom for the Chesapeake Bay. 89 00:04:04.890 --> 00:04:06.930 Both professional and opportunistic fishers 90 00:04:06.930 --> 00:04:09.060 hurried to join the lucrative fishery. 91 00:04:09.060 --> 00:04:11.520 The small oyster boats used in the region for decades 92 00:04:11.520 --> 00:04:12.990 to tong the shallow oyster beds 93 00:04:12.990 --> 00:04:15.300 were quickly modified to carry larger equipment 94 00:04:15.300 --> 00:04:17.313 for dredging the deep areas of the bay. 95 00:04:18.750 --> 00:04:20.850 The Chesapeake Bay region was home to a variety 96 00:04:20.850 --> 00:04:22.950 of small vernacular watercraft. 97 00:04:22.950 --> 00:04:24.630 However, only a few in particular 98 00:04:24.630 --> 00:04:27.180 were designed specifically for oystering. 99 00:04:27.180 --> 00:04:29.520 The original oyster boats were small log canoes, 100 00:04:29.520 --> 00:04:31.650 easily maneuvered by one or two people. 101 00:04:31.650 --> 00:04:33.810 They could traverse the shallow areas 102 00:04:33.810 --> 00:04:35.860 and were used primarily for tonging. 103 00:04:37.620 --> 00:04:40.410 As oystering became more lucrative during the oyster boom, 104 00:04:40.410 --> 00:04:43.200 larger boats were needed to obtain more oysters. 105 00:04:43.200 --> 00:04:46.920 The log canoe eventually developed into the brogan. 106 00:04:46.920 --> 00:04:48.600 The brogan was still relatively small 107 00:04:48.600 --> 00:04:50.940 and rarely reached lengths of 45 feet. 108 00:04:50.940 --> 00:04:53.220 These boats were undecked and log constructed 109 00:04:53.220 --> 00:04:55.893 and were primarily used for tonging as well. 110 00:04:57.180 --> 00:04:59.100 As dredging was introduced, 111 00:04:59.100 --> 00:05:01.260 fishers wanted bigger, more powerful boats. 112 00:05:01.260 --> 00:05:03.900 The pungy developed from the much larger traditional built 113 00:05:03.900 --> 00:05:05.250 schooners of the bay. 114 00:05:05.250 --> 00:05:07.530 These were essentially smaller versions of these schooners, 115 00:05:07.530 --> 00:05:09.690 which carried the same sail configuration 116 00:05:09.690 --> 00:05:12.600 and had a lot of deck space in which to work. 117 00:05:12.600 --> 00:05:14.370 Though the pungy could dredge under sail, 118 00:05:14.370 --> 00:05:15.930 it unfortunately could only traverse 119 00:05:15.930 --> 00:05:17.550 the deep areas of the Chesapeake Bay, 120 00:05:17.550 --> 00:05:19.170 and the deep hull would not allow the vessel 121 00:05:19.170 --> 00:05:22.230 to enter shallow areas to offload its cargo. 122 00:05:22.230 --> 00:05:23.910 So as the smaller coastal communities 123 00:05:23.910 --> 00:05:26.850 developed their own oyster houses, they couldn't really rely 124 00:05:26.850 --> 00:05:28.923 on these larger vessels all the time. 125 00:05:29.940 --> 00:05:31.530 This issue was eventually solved 126 00:05:31.530 --> 00:05:33.450 by the introduction of the bugeye. 127 00:05:33.450 --> 00:05:35.580 Bugeyes had to striking the resemblance to pungies. 128 00:05:35.580 --> 00:05:38.340 They could often not even be told apart from each other 129 00:05:38.340 --> 00:05:39.780 if they had the same rig. 130 00:05:39.780 --> 00:05:41.550 However, bugeyes traditionally carried 131 00:05:41.550 --> 00:05:43.590 a leg-of-mutton sail configuration 132 00:05:43.590 --> 00:05:44.937 instead of a schooner rig. 133 00:05:44.937 --> 00:05:46.830 The bugeye vessels became popular 134 00:05:46.830 --> 00:05:49.830 in the Chesapeake Bay region in the 1860s 135 00:05:49.830 --> 00:05:52.320 and were constructed from multiple hollowed out logs 136 00:05:52.320 --> 00:05:53.790 that were pinned together. 137 00:05:53.790 --> 00:05:56.550 The main differences between bugeyes and pundies was 138 00:05:56.550 --> 00:05:58.800 that the bugeyes had a slightly flatter hull 139 00:05:58.800 --> 00:06:00.690 and contained a centerboard which allowed the vessel 140 00:06:00.690 --> 00:06:03.183 to dredge as well as traverse the shallow waters. 141 00:06:05.310 --> 00:06:07.230 Traditionally built bugeyes were built 142 00:06:07.230 --> 00:06:09.810 with that log hull construction. 143 00:06:09.810 --> 00:06:11.850 These were the most commonly built bugeyes, 144 00:06:11.850 --> 00:06:14.700 which were first built in the region in the 1860s 145 00:06:14.700 --> 00:06:19.140 and were typically built to lengths of approximately 59 feet 146 00:06:19.140 --> 00:06:20.550 or about 18 meters. 147 00:06:20.550 --> 00:06:23.340 Early bugeye vessels were made from five or more logs 148 00:06:23.340 --> 00:06:27.150 with framed top sides and were carvel planked up to the deck 149 00:06:27.150 --> 00:06:29.910 The frames connected to the keel log, 150 00:06:29.910 --> 00:06:32.810 though the midships frame stopped at the centerboard case. 151 00:06:34.230 --> 00:06:36.030 Many improvements were made to the bugeye 152 00:06:36.030 --> 00:06:38.880 throughout the late 19th and early 20th centuries, 153 00:06:38.880 --> 00:06:40.650 and typical construction methods 154 00:06:40.650 --> 00:06:42.690 varied from builder to builder. 155 00:06:42.690 --> 00:06:44.940 As timber became scarce and more expensive 156 00:06:44.940 --> 00:06:47.700 toward the end of the 19th century, building bugeyes 157 00:06:47.700 --> 00:06:49.620 through the traditional log construction method 158 00:06:49.620 --> 00:06:50.790 was not ideal. 159 00:06:50.790 --> 00:06:53.580 At some point in the 1880s, Chesapeake Bay builders 160 00:06:53.580 --> 00:06:56.253 began to construct bugeyes using planks and frames. 161 00:06:58.350 --> 00:06:59.820 The evolution of the oyster boats 162 00:06:59.820 --> 00:07:01.170 did not stop with the bugeye, 163 00:07:01.170 --> 00:07:03.150 though the bugeye remained the preferred oyster boat 164 00:07:03.150 --> 00:07:04.560 throughout the oyster boom. 165 00:07:04.560 --> 00:07:06.990 It was still expensive and time consuming to build. 166 00:07:06.990 --> 00:07:09.000 Since many fishers wanted to catch oysters, 167 00:07:09.000 --> 00:07:10.470 they needed a way to build a boat 168 00:07:10.470 --> 00:07:11.910 that had all the advantages 169 00:07:11.910 --> 00:07:14.660 without being so expensive and time consuming to build. 170 00:07:16.080 --> 00:07:18.180 Thus, the skipjack was created. 171 00:07:18.180 --> 00:07:19.170 These vessels were built 172 00:07:19.170 --> 00:07:20.640 right at the end of the oyster boom. 173 00:07:20.640 --> 00:07:23.220 They had only one mast, they did have a centerboard case 174 00:07:23.220 --> 00:07:25.230 and they had a completely flat bottom, 175 00:07:25.230 --> 00:07:27.660 a minimal number of large frames and floors 176 00:07:27.660 --> 00:07:30.060 and a hard shine with no curved sides. 177 00:07:30.060 --> 00:07:31.980 These vessels were easy and quick to build 178 00:07:31.980 --> 00:07:34.590 and they were still capable of dredging deep waters 179 00:07:34.590 --> 00:07:36.240 and traversing the shallow areas. 180 00:07:38.670 --> 00:07:41.040 Although late 19th century bugeye vessels 181 00:07:41.040 --> 00:07:43.470 are historically documented, the physical remains 182 00:07:43.470 --> 00:07:44.990 of these vessels are rarely examined 183 00:07:44.990 --> 00:07:46.800 in the archeological record. 184 00:07:46.800 --> 00:07:49.350 The few that have been recorded, however, provide evidence 185 00:07:49.350 --> 00:07:50.880 of specific shipbuilding features 186 00:07:50.880 --> 00:07:53.080 that are not known in the historical record. 187 00:07:54.660 --> 00:07:56.970 So how do these Chesapeake Bay oyster boats relate 188 00:07:56.970 --> 00:07:59.120 to the maritime heritage of North Carolina? 189 00:08:00.030 --> 00:08:02.610 Well, while studying at East Carolina University, 190 00:08:02.610 --> 00:08:05.490 I had a plan to survey a small wreck located 191 00:08:05.490 --> 00:08:08.460 in the Mallows Bay-Potomac River National Marine Sanctuary 192 00:08:08.460 --> 00:08:09.930 but I was unable to carry this out 193 00:08:09.930 --> 00:08:11.463 because of the COVID pandemic. 194 00:08:13.350 --> 00:08:15.390 Luckily, the professors at ECU were able 195 00:08:15.390 --> 00:08:17.520 to come up with a safety plan that allowed us 196 00:08:17.520 --> 00:08:20.280 to undertake a fall field school in 2020 197 00:08:20.280 --> 00:08:21.450 right in the middle of COVID. 198 00:08:21.450 --> 00:08:23.340 So we were limited surveying areas 199 00:08:23.340 --> 00:08:25.200 in the local Tar-Pamlico River 200 00:08:25.200 --> 00:08:27.150 at the historic Port of Washington. 201 00:08:27.150 --> 00:08:29.370 And one site in particular intrigued me. 202 00:08:29.370 --> 00:08:31.080 This was the remains of a wooden vessel 203 00:08:31.080 --> 00:08:32.250 that contained a centerboard 204 00:08:32.250 --> 00:08:34.623 and was locally known as the Centerboard Wreck. 205 00:08:36.270 --> 00:08:38.220 Centerboard Wreck had been known about 206 00:08:38.220 --> 00:08:39.447 since at least the 1980s 207 00:08:39.447 --> 00:08:42.120 and was often used as a site to teach students 208 00:08:42.120 --> 00:08:43.860 how to record in blackwater. 209 00:08:43.860 --> 00:08:45.840 However, no one examined it in detail 210 00:08:45.840 --> 00:08:48.990 and I decided to undertake this from my thesis project. 211 00:08:48.990 --> 00:08:50.490 Here you can see the location of the wreck 212 00:08:50.490 --> 00:08:53.583 across from downtown Washington on the Pamlico River. 213 00:08:55.890 --> 00:08:58.620 The site is located in about three feet of blackwater 214 00:08:58.620 --> 00:09:01.080 and traditional recording methods were implemented, 215 00:09:01.080 --> 00:09:03.960 specifically baseline and offset measurements 216 00:09:03.960 --> 00:09:05.403 and direct measurements. 217 00:09:07.440 --> 00:09:09.930 Here is a preliminary sketch of what the vessel looks like. 218 00:09:09.930 --> 00:09:12.120 This was drawn out by the measurement data 219 00:09:12.120 --> 00:09:13.650 collected by taking offsets 220 00:09:13.650 --> 00:09:16.500 and measuring some of the larger features in more detail. 221 00:09:19.830 --> 00:09:21.810 Larger features included the stem assembly, 222 00:09:21.810 --> 00:09:25.293 which included multiple timbers, frames and ceiling planking 223 00:09:29.040 --> 00:09:31.083 Here's a profile view of the same area. 224 00:09:36.090 --> 00:09:38.640 Here's a drawing of the remnants of the centerboard case. 225 00:09:38.640 --> 00:09:39.990 All of these drawings were developed 226 00:09:39.990 --> 00:09:41.550 by different students on the project. 227 00:09:41.550 --> 00:09:44.043 I just digitally illustrated them afterward. 228 00:09:46.050 --> 00:09:48.480 This image of the sternpost and stern timbers 229 00:09:48.480 --> 00:09:51.330 a pintle and gudgeon from the rudder were still in place, 230 00:09:55.680 --> 00:09:57.390 and the rudder itself was detached 231 00:09:57.390 --> 00:09:59.700 but in close proximity to the stern post. 232 00:09:59.700 --> 00:10:02.148 It does have a slight curve 233 00:10:02.148 --> 00:10:05.610 which is indicative of Chesapeake Bay rudders, 234 00:10:05.610 --> 00:10:07.403 which I thought was pretty interesting. 235 00:10:08.490 --> 00:10:10.860 Over 30 artifacts were recorded on the site. 236 00:10:10.860 --> 00:10:13.050 These were not taken for conservation, 237 00:10:13.050 --> 00:10:14.880 but instead left where they were found. 238 00:10:14.880 --> 00:10:16.590 We drew and photographed each artifact 239 00:10:16.590 --> 00:10:17.703 before returning them. 240 00:10:20.010 --> 00:10:21.870 Many of the artifacts provided evidence 241 00:10:21.870 --> 00:10:24.570 for the wreck being related to the historic oyster industry, 242 00:10:24.570 --> 00:10:25.920 including this dredge rake, 243 00:10:25.920 --> 00:10:28.353 which was fastened to an oyster dredge. 244 00:10:30.060 --> 00:10:31.233 As you can see here. 245 00:10:34.980 --> 00:10:36.270 And a closer image. 246 00:10:36.270 --> 00:10:39.510 These tooth dredge rakes would scrape the oyster beds 247 00:10:39.510 --> 00:10:42.030 and the oysters would be captured in the dredge basket 248 00:10:42.030 --> 00:10:43.440 and brought back on board. 249 00:10:43.440 --> 00:10:46.500 We found four of these rakes, which is common, 250 00:10:46.500 --> 00:10:48.270 because as the teeth were worn down 251 00:10:48.270 --> 00:10:49.320 they would need to be replaced. 252 00:10:49.320 --> 00:10:51.220 So spares were often carried on board. 253 00:10:52.860 --> 00:10:54.960 We also found a stove leg. 254 00:10:54.960 --> 00:10:57.910 Stoves were common on fishing boats for the longer voyages. 255 00:11:00.420 --> 00:11:02.700 We also found a large heavy cylinder. 256 00:11:02.700 --> 00:11:05.250 It took me a while to figure out what this was, 257 00:11:05.250 --> 00:11:08.100 and it turns out it's a vertical dredge roller, 258 00:11:08.100 --> 00:11:10.170 which helped prevent the dredge cable 259 00:11:10.170 --> 00:11:12.370 from running against the side of the vessel. 260 00:11:14.430 --> 00:11:15.900 We also found some reading elements, 261 00:11:15.900 --> 00:11:17.643 including this bobstay fitting. 262 00:11:21.390 --> 00:11:23.610 The bobstay fitting was placed on the stem 263 00:11:23.610 --> 00:11:26.643 and connected to the bobstay by a chain. 264 00:11:32.280 --> 00:11:34.290 This piece also confused me for a while, 265 00:11:34.290 --> 00:11:37.260 until I came across this exploded view of a windless. 266 00:11:37.260 --> 00:11:39.600 Apparently it's called the purchase link 267 00:11:39.600 --> 00:11:42.050 and shackle that was part of the windless system. 268 00:11:45.180 --> 00:11:47.733 We also found a portion of a deck hatch cover, 269 00:11:50.790 --> 00:11:52.140 as well as ice tongs, 270 00:11:52.140 --> 00:11:54.090 which were also common on fishing vessels 271 00:11:54.090 --> 00:11:55.560 to carry blocks of ice on board 272 00:11:55.560 --> 00:11:58.923 that would help whatever catch stay fresh on board. 273 00:11:59.940 --> 00:12:03.030 And most importantly, we actually found some oysters. 274 00:12:03.030 --> 00:12:05.370 This is significant because oysters do not inhabit 275 00:12:05.370 --> 00:12:06.540 that part of the river, 276 00:12:06.540 --> 00:12:09.190 which means they were likely caught using the vessel. 277 00:12:11.760 --> 00:12:12.810 While recording the wreck, 278 00:12:12.810 --> 00:12:15.930 my initial research questions included what are the origins 279 00:12:15.930 --> 00:12:17.580 of the North Carolina oyster fishery 280 00:12:17.580 --> 00:12:20.700 and the development of Washington's oyster trade. 281 00:12:20.700 --> 00:12:23.670 Was the wreck employed in Washington's industry 282 00:12:23.670 --> 00:12:25.020 or is it simply abandoned there? 283 00:12:25.020 --> 00:12:26.430 It seemed like every day on site 284 00:12:26.430 --> 00:12:28.980 I would have more questions with no answers. 285 00:12:28.980 --> 00:12:33.150 So what did I initially learn from the wreck? 286 00:12:33.150 --> 00:12:35.190 Well, this vessel led me to find 287 00:12:35.190 --> 00:12:36.480 that the small port of Washington 288 00:12:36.480 --> 00:12:38.910 had a very significant maritime history 289 00:12:38.910 --> 00:12:41.260 and was somehow related to the oyster industry. 290 00:12:42.510 --> 00:12:44.880 Next up was looking into the historical record 291 00:12:44.880 --> 00:12:47.250 and I quickly found out that Washington's involvement 292 00:12:47.250 --> 00:12:49.860 in the industry was evident in primary documents, 293 00:12:49.860 --> 00:12:52.083 but not so much in modern secondary sources. 294 00:12:55.470 --> 00:12:57.810 Unlike the Chesapeake Bay, which was the hub of oystering 295 00:12:57.810 --> 00:12:59.310 during the late 19th century, 296 00:12:59.310 --> 00:13:01.170 North Carolina had no port dedicated 297 00:13:01.170 --> 00:13:03.570 to importing or exporting oysters. 298 00:13:03.570 --> 00:13:05.100 Instead, the state had a variety 299 00:13:05.100 --> 00:13:07.800 of small local oyster markets in coastal towns. 300 00:13:07.800 --> 00:13:09.989 The lack of railroads and fast transportation 301 00:13:09.989 --> 00:13:12.780 precluded the growth of a larger market. 302 00:13:12.780 --> 00:13:16.320 Yet in the late 1880s, the North Carolina oyster industry 303 00:13:16.320 --> 00:13:18.183 was subject to a rise in activity. 304 00:13:19.830 --> 00:13:22.320 After the Chesapeake Bay fishers over harvested 305 00:13:22.320 --> 00:13:23.250 their oyster beds, 306 00:13:23.250 --> 00:13:26.010 they came to North Carolina sounds in search of more. 307 00:13:26.010 --> 00:13:28.590 They set up oyster houses, used their own vessels 308 00:13:28.590 --> 00:13:31.260 and equipment and actually shipped the canned oysters 309 00:13:31.260 --> 00:13:34.293 back to Baltimore to be sold as Chesapeake Bay oysters. 310 00:13:36.630 --> 00:13:37.830 Washington quickly became 311 00:13:37.830 --> 00:13:39.810 an important port for the industry. 312 00:13:39.810 --> 00:13:42.990 Already a large port before the Chesapeake Bay fishers came, 313 00:13:42.990 --> 00:13:45.330 Washington saw the exportation of tobacco, 314 00:13:45.330 --> 00:13:47.283 turpentine, and textiles. 315 00:13:48.930 --> 00:13:50.700 The Chesapeake Bay influence can be seen 316 00:13:50.700 --> 00:13:52.230 in Washington's history. 317 00:13:52.230 --> 00:13:55.770 Around 1890, an oyster canning factory opened in the town 318 00:13:55.770 --> 00:13:58.110 that employed over 150 people. 319 00:13:58.110 --> 00:13:59.670 The business was very successful, 320 00:13:59.670 --> 00:14:02.520 and oyster shells were so prevalent in Washington 321 00:14:02.520 --> 00:14:04.980 that they literally had to burn them to get rid of them. 322 00:14:04.980 --> 00:14:06.540 The streets were surfaced with shells 323 00:14:06.540 --> 00:14:07.680 and a massive lime kiln 324 00:14:07.680 --> 00:14:09.750 was built on the island in the river. 325 00:14:09.750 --> 00:14:11.580 The townspeople thought the kiln funnels 326 00:14:11.580 --> 00:14:13.500 made the island look like a castle, 327 00:14:13.500 --> 00:14:15.720 and it is called Castle Island today. 328 00:14:15.720 --> 00:14:17.760 Unfortunately, the Chesapeake Bay oysterers 329 00:14:17.760 --> 00:14:18.930 did not learn their lesson 330 00:14:18.930 --> 00:14:21.630 and they quickly overfished the Pamlico Sound as well. 331 00:14:23.370 --> 00:14:25.440 Maps and charts were very important in my research 332 00:14:25.440 --> 00:14:28.110 as they showed buildings that were no longer in the town, 333 00:14:28.110 --> 00:14:29.340 two of which were significant 334 00:14:29.340 --> 00:14:31.620 to the maritime history of Washington. 335 00:14:31.620 --> 00:14:33.810 The J.S. Farren & Co canning house 336 00:14:33.810 --> 00:14:36.210 was Washington's Oystering facility. 337 00:14:36.210 --> 00:14:37.740 It was located on Water Street 338 00:14:37.740 --> 00:14:39.870 next to the J.R. Farrow Shipyard, 339 00:14:39.870 --> 00:14:42.060 where the town's festival park and estuary 340 00:14:42.060 --> 00:14:43.680 are presently located. 341 00:14:43.680 --> 00:14:46.413 It was owned and operated by a Baltimore firm. 342 00:14:47.970 --> 00:14:50.340 These maps show the years 1891 on the left 343 00:14:50.340 --> 00:14:52.110 and 1911 on the right. 344 00:14:52.110 --> 00:14:55.200 You can see how the factory slightly expanded over time. 345 00:14:55.200 --> 00:14:58.890 A 1909 issue of the Washington Daily News 346 00:14:58.890 --> 00:15:00.570 contained an article discussing a visit 347 00:15:00.570 --> 00:15:03.000 from one of the company's representatives visiting 348 00:15:03.000 --> 00:15:05.670 the J.S Farren & Co branch at Washington. 349 00:15:05.670 --> 00:15:08.040 At this point in time, the factory had been shut down 350 00:15:08.040 --> 00:15:09.030 for two years. 351 00:15:09.030 --> 00:15:11.610 The article suggests that nearly 200 people 352 00:15:11.610 --> 00:15:13.830 were working for the facility at this time, 353 00:15:13.830 --> 00:15:15.630 but they would need assurances 354 00:15:15.630 --> 00:15:17.910 that enough oysters could be caught 355 00:15:17.910 --> 00:15:19.650 to justify the reopening. 356 00:15:19.650 --> 00:15:22.680 A 1916 issue of the same newspaper contains an article 357 00:15:22.680 --> 00:15:24.540 discussing the effects the facility 358 00:15:24.540 --> 00:15:26.550 had on the oyster population. 359 00:15:26.550 --> 00:15:29.370 The article mentions at least four boats being docked 360 00:15:29.370 --> 00:15:31.530 at the facility to offload oysters, 361 00:15:31.530 --> 00:15:33.840 and the author claimed that the rate 362 00:15:33.840 --> 00:15:36.150 at which the oystermen were going, it would not be long 363 00:15:36.150 --> 00:15:38.583 until the oyster beds were entirely depleted. 364 00:15:41.820 --> 00:15:44.040 Charts were also important to my investigation 365 00:15:44.040 --> 00:15:46.650 as one in particular from 1871 366 00:15:46.650 --> 00:15:47.910 showed appear in some buildings 367 00:15:47.910 --> 00:15:49.980 in the vicinity of the wreck site. 368 00:15:49.980 --> 00:15:52.650 We noticed pure remains during our survey 369 00:15:52.650 --> 00:15:55.380 and the small point on the map is labeled windmill, 370 00:15:55.380 --> 00:15:58.860 which one of my colleagues found the structure 371 00:15:58.860 --> 00:16:00.270 of the windmill in this vicinity 372 00:16:00.270 --> 00:16:01.830 for his own master's research. 373 00:16:01.830 --> 00:16:04.890 Unfortunately, not much was recorded of these buildings 374 00:16:04.890 --> 00:16:07.020 and all I could find was that the location 375 00:16:07.020 --> 00:16:09.920 was probably used for a ferry before the bridge was built. 376 00:16:11.670 --> 00:16:14.760 This chart from 1915 depicts the pier remains 377 00:16:14.760 --> 00:16:16.170 and a wreck in the location. 378 00:16:16.170 --> 00:16:18.780 Notably the wreck symbol is to the west of the pier 379 00:16:18.780 --> 00:16:21.360 where a different wreck is also located. 380 00:16:21.360 --> 00:16:23.850 There is no wreck symbol for the Centerboard Wreck. 381 00:16:23.850 --> 00:16:26.400 So it's possible that the vessel was abandoned in the area 382 00:16:26.400 --> 00:16:28.293 sometime after 1915. 383 00:16:30.060 --> 00:16:32.700 I was fortunate enough to find many historical photographs 384 00:16:32.700 --> 00:16:34.800 from the time period and region. 385 00:16:34.800 --> 00:16:36.150 This image supposedly depicts 386 00:16:36.150 --> 00:16:38.220 the oyster canning house in Washington. 387 00:16:38.220 --> 00:16:40.380 However, some historians believe this to be 388 00:16:40.380 --> 00:16:43.080 another port city of North Carolina 389 00:16:43.080 --> 00:16:45.060 as the terrain is a little off. 390 00:16:45.060 --> 00:16:46.290 However, those docked vessels 391 00:16:46.290 --> 00:16:48.390 are almost certainly Chesapeake Bay boats. 392 00:16:50.130 --> 00:16:52.320 Another image of this post canning factory 393 00:16:52.320 --> 00:16:55.380 depicting many people involved in the industry 394 00:16:55.380 --> 00:16:57.063 with boxes of canned oysters. 395 00:16:59.760 --> 00:17:01.200 This is one of my favorite images, 396 00:17:01.200 --> 00:17:03.960 as it depicts oysters being unloaded from a vessel 397 00:17:03.960 --> 00:17:07.320 by African Americans who made up the majority of crews 398 00:17:07.320 --> 00:17:08.760 of oyster boats. 399 00:17:08.760 --> 00:17:11.610 The depicted boat also shows a vessel that is similar 400 00:17:11.610 --> 00:17:13.860 to many Chesapeake based schooners of the time, 401 00:17:13.860 --> 00:17:16.473 and oystering equipment can also be seen throughout, 402 00:17:18.150 --> 00:17:20.640 including the dredge, the hand winders 403 00:17:20.640 --> 00:17:23.373 for the dredge and the rollers on either side. 404 00:17:26.310 --> 00:17:30.720 Although bugeyes in Chesapeake Bay oyster boat treatises 405 00:17:30.720 --> 00:17:33.090 are thorough, they typically only focus on bugeyes 406 00:17:33.090 --> 00:17:35.040 being used in the Chesapeake Bay 407 00:17:35.040 --> 00:17:36.600 and rarely ever mention Bugeyes 408 00:17:36.600 --> 00:17:38.310 being used in North Carolina. 409 00:17:38.310 --> 00:17:39.960 But the primary sources indicate 410 00:17:39.960 --> 00:17:41.550 that Bugeyes were an important ship type 411 00:17:41.550 --> 00:17:44.220 used in North Carolina, especially in Washington, 412 00:17:44.220 --> 00:17:46.470 which was then known as the oyster metropolis 413 00:17:46.470 --> 00:17:47.523 of North Carolina. 414 00:17:49.380 --> 00:17:51.240 Newspapers revealed a lot of information 415 00:17:51.240 --> 00:17:53.423 about the industry and Bugeyes. 416 00:17:53.423 --> 00:17:57.030 Bugeyes were often referred to by their exact vessel type. 417 00:17:57.030 --> 00:17:59.400 Many newspapers explained that the vessels were used 418 00:17:59.400 --> 00:18:02.610 as oyster boats, freight boats, and sometimes ferries. 419 00:18:02.610 --> 00:18:04.230 Some are even identified by names 420 00:18:04.230 --> 00:18:05.830 such as the bugeye named Hamlet. 421 00:18:08.430 --> 00:18:10.380 Hamlet was originally used as an oyster boat 422 00:18:10.380 --> 00:18:11.310 in the Chesapeake Bay, 423 00:18:11.310 --> 00:18:13.500 but was eventually sold and used as an oyster boat 424 00:18:13.500 --> 00:18:15.480 and freight boat in Elizabeth City. 425 00:18:15.480 --> 00:18:17.520 Later it played an important role in shipping goods 426 00:18:17.520 --> 00:18:19.560 from Washington to Ocracoke. 427 00:18:19.560 --> 00:18:23.673 Hamlet is listed as being abandoned in Washington in 1931. 428 00:18:25.290 --> 00:18:28.170 Unfortunately, I do not think Hamlet is the identification 429 00:18:28.170 --> 00:18:30.690 of the Centerboard Wreck for one important reason. 430 00:18:30.690 --> 00:18:32.970 The most diagnostic feature of the Centerboard Wreck is 431 00:18:32.970 --> 00:18:35.130 the unique locations of the mast steps. 432 00:18:35.130 --> 00:18:36.900 The mast steps in Centerboard case 433 00:18:36.900 --> 00:18:40.410 were typically in line with keel in bugeye 434 00:18:40.410 --> 00:18:43.113 as seen in this drawing of Lizzie Cox. 435 00:18:45.990 --> 00:18:49.900 The forward mast step of the Centerboard Wreck is in line 436 00:18:50.760 --> 00:18:53.670 with the keel, but the aft mast step is slightly forward 437 00:18:53.670 --> 00:18:55.530 and not directly behind the centerboard case 438 00:18:55.530 --> 00:18:57.750 and it's actually offset to the port side 439 00:18:57.750 --> 00:19:00.210 and the centerboard case itself is also offset 440 00:19:00.210 --> 00:19:01.310 to starboard slightly. 441 00:19:02.550 --> 00:19:04.860 You can even tell how offset the centerboard case is 442 00:19:04.860 --> 00:19:06.330 from the sonar image. 443 00:19:06.330 --> 00:19:07.890 This feature is rare in bugeye 444 00:19:07.890 --> 00:19:10.353 but has been noted in another wreck. 445 00:19:12.450 --> 00:19:15.570 This image is of the site plan of the Hobbs wreck, 446 00:19:15.570 --> 00:19:17.250 which is part of the Nansemond Ghost Fleet 447 00:19:17.250 --> 00:19:18.870 in Suffolk, Virginia. 448 00:19:18.870 --> 00:19:21.300 It looks nearly identical to the Centerboard Wreck, 449 00:19:21.300 --> 00:19:23.700 so much so that they could be sister ships. 450 00:19:23.700 --> 00:19:25.967 This Hobb Wreck is also a bugeye. 451 00:19:29.220 --> 00:19:31.830 So this vessel also has that offset centerboard case 452 00:19:31.830 --> 00:19:34.020 and identical locations of the mast steps. 453 00:19:34.020 --> 00:19:36.810 So why were these bugeyes built this way? 454 00:19:36.810 --> 00:19:38.880 It's likely because they carried a schooner rig 455 00:19:38.880 --> 00:19:41.130 instead of the traditional leg-of-mutton rig. 456 00:19:42.990 --> 00:19:44.790 And here again you can see the offset features 457 00:19:44.790 --> 00:19:48.630 of the Centerboard Wreck and the differences 458 00:19:48.630 --> 00:19:50.850 between the traditional leg of mutton rig on the left 459 00:19:50.850 --> 00:19:54.030 and the square rigged or schooner rigged bugeye 460 00:19:54.030 --> 00:19:55.620 on the right. 461 00:19:55.620 --> 00:19:59.910 You can see how far apart the masks are on the left 462 00:19:59.910 --> 00:20:02.043 and how much closer they are on the right. 463 00:20:03.540 --> 00:20:05.040 I took the measurements of the Hobbs Wreck 464 00:20:05.040 --> 00:20:07.743 and recreated what the rigging would've looked like, 465 00:20:08.940 --> 00:20:11.190 and the schooner rig fist perfectly. 466 00:20:11.190 --> 00:20:12.900 Since they are the same dimensions, 467 00:20:12.900 --> 00:20:14.670 this is exactly what the Centerboard Wreck 468 00:20:14.670 --> 00:20:16.953 would have also looked like as well. 469 00:20:19.170 --> 00:20:21.150 Of the nearly 600 bugeyes built, 470 00:20:21.150 --> 00:20:22.980 only 36 have been identified 471 00:20:22.980 --> 00:20:25.230 as being square rigged or schooner rigged. 472 00:20:25.230 --> 00:20:27.540 Of these 36, none are officially listed 473 00:20:27.540 --> 00:20:29.880 as abandoned or wrecked in Washington, 474 00:20:29.880 --> 00:20:31.680 however many of them are listed as abandoned 475 00:20:31.680 --> 00:20:34.263 with the last home port as Baltimore. 476 00:20:35.850 --> 00:20:38.010 So it's possible one of these boats was abandoned 477 00:20:38.010 --> 00:20:41.163 after moving from Baltimore to Washington. 478 00:20:43.170 --> 00:20:44.730 Unfortunately, Hamlet is not listed 479 00:20:44.730 --> 00:20:46.650 as being a square rigged bugeye. 480 00:20:46.650 --> 00:20:49.500 There is, however another bugeye wrecked 481 00:20:49.500 --> 00:20:52.710 near Castle Island not far from the Centerboard Wreck 482 00:20:52.710 --> 00:20:54.810 and I'm sure there are others we have not found yet. 483 00:20:54.810 --> 00:20:56.943 So Hamlet is probably out there somewhere. 484 00:20:58.500 --> 00:21:00.690 Bugeyes continue to be used in North Carolina 485 00:21:00.690 --> 00:21:04.380 into the 1940s, '50s and even the 1960s 486 00:21:04.380 --> 00:21:06.420 as freight boats for the Outer Banks. 487 00:21:06.420 --> 00:21:09.870 A highway eventually connected the Outer Banks in the 1940s, 488 00:21:09.870 --> 00:21:12.270 but no regular ferry was established to Ocracoke 489 00:21:12.270 --> 00:21:13.860 until the 1950s, 490 00:21:13.860 --> 00:21:16.710 and the last freight boat retired in the 1960s, 491 00:21:16.710 --> 00:21:18.060 many of them being bugeyes. 492 00:21:20.430 --> 00:21:23.220 These freight boats acted as a lifeline for Ocracoke 493 00:21:23.220 --> 00:21:25.470 that would bring daily supplies to the island. 494 00:21:25.470 --> 00:21:26.880 And I just think it's really interesting 495 00:21:26.880 --> 00:21:28.020 that in the same decade 496 00:21:28.020 --> 00:21:30.060 that the first person walked on the moon, 497 00:21:30.060 --> 00:21:31.320 an entire island relied 498 00:21:31.320 --> 00:21:33.780 on these 80-year-old wooden sailing oyster boats 499 00:21:33.780 --> 00:21:35.670 for supplies to survive. 500 00:21:35.670 --> 00:21:37.980 And maybe the Centerboard Wreck isn't one of these bugeye, 501 00:21:37.980 --> 00:21:39.723 but maybe it is. 502 00:21:41.940 --> 00:21:43.380 And before I finish up here, 503 00:21:43.380 --> 00:21:45.180 I want to catch you up on where I am now. 504 00:21:45.180 --> 00:21:48.480 So as I finished my thesis, which involved examining 505 00:21:48.480 --> 00:21:51.240 all of these bugeyes within the context of North Carolina, 506 00:21:51.240 --> 00:21:53.970 more questions were raised than I was able to answer, 507 00:21:53.970 --> 00:21:56.130 and that's when I decided to expand this topic 508 00:21:56.130 --> 00:21:57.630 into a dissertation project 509 00:21:57.630 --> 00:21:59.850 in order to place the bugeye vessel type 510 00:21:59.850 --> 00:22:01.473 into a larger context. 511 00:22:02.640 --> 00:22:05.100 So the goal of my dissertation project is to examine 512 00:22:05.100 --> 00:22:07.980 and digitally reconstruct three separate bugeye shipwrecks 513 00:22:07.980 --> 00:22:09.960 dispersed throughout the Chesapeake Bay, 514 00:22:09.960 --> 00:22:13.560 shown to have individually specific construction features 515 00:22:13.560 --> 00:22:15.570 to identify the shipbuilding methods 516 00:22:15.570 --> 00:22:17.820 not recorded in the historical record, 517 00:22:17.820 --> 00:22:19.530 as well as to understand the variations 518 00:22:19.530 --> 00:22:22.353 in construction methods of the bugeye vessel type. 519 00:22:24.510 --> 00:22:26.790 The first site is known as the Bull Cove Bugeye 520 00:22:26.790 --> 00:22:29.520 and the hull remains were discovered in 2019 521 00:22:29.520 --> 00:22:32.250 when the vessel was exposed by erosion of the shoreline. 522 00:22:32.250 --> 00:22:35.340 It is located on the west side of Virginia's Eastern Shore 523 00:22:35.340 --> 00:22:36.453 on the Chesapeake Bay. 524 00:22:38.040 --> 00:22:41.100 The vessel remains include nine hollowed logs 525 00:22:41.100 --> 00:22:42.690 that form the hull, a centerboard case 526 00:22:42.690 --> 00:22:45.510 and two highly deteriorated half frames. 527 00:22:45.510 --> 00:22:46.980 Much of the vessel is exposed, 528 00:22:46.980 --> 00:22:49.983 however, a portion of the stern is still covered on shore. 529 00:22:52.500 --> 00:22:54.210 The dimensions for each log were obtained 530 00:22:54.210 --> 00:22:56.010 by measuring the exposed portion 531 00:22:56.010 --> 00:22:57.840 and probing the covered section. 532 00:22:57.840 --> 00:22:59.730 Here is a preliminary site drawing. 533 00:22:59.730 --> 00:23:01.530 The Bull Cove Bugeye is a perfect example 534 00:23:01.530 --> 00:23:04.833 of the much more traditionally built log hulled bugeye. 535 00:23:06.750 --> 00:23:08.940 The keel log measures about 46 feet 536 00:23:08.940 --> 00:23:11.430 and provides the overall length of the vessel remains. 537 00:23:11.430 --> 00:23:14.100 The thickness of the keel log varies throughout the vessel, 538 00:23:14.100 --> 00:23:16.713 but is roughly about five inches. 539 00:23:18.060 --> 00:23:20.850 The centerboard case measures about 12 feet in length 540 00:23:20.850 --> 00:23:23.793 and contains the centerboard that is about 10.5 feet long. 541 00:23:24.720 --> 00:23:25.980 And similar to the Hobbs Wreck, 542 00:23:25.980 --> 00:23:27.750 here is a preliminary reconstruction 543 00:23:27.750 --> 00:23:29.283 of the type of rig it carried. 544 00:23:31.560 --> 00:23:34.510 And the second site I will be examining is the Hobbs Wreck, 545 00:23:36.000 --> 00:23:37.680 which is suspended in the muddy banks 546 00:23:37.680 --> 00:23:39.750 of the Nansemond River in Suffolk 547 00:23:39.750 --> 00:23:44.460 and is about 46.5 feet long and 17.5 feet wide. 548 00:23:44.460 --> 00:23:47.910 The wreck is entirely exposed at low tide 549 00:23:47.910 --> 00:23:50.520 and was surveyed using traditional measuring methods 550 00:23:50.520 --> 00:23:53.160 as well as laser scanning by archeologists 551 00:23:53.160 --> 00:23:55.650 from Florida's St. Augustine Lighthouse 552 00:23:55.650 --> 00:23:58.653 Archeological Maritime program, also known as LAMP. 553 00:24:00.480 --> 00:24:02.340 And here's the rig reconstruction again, 554 00:24:02.340 --> 00:24:04.260 I plan to do this with all three sites. 555 00:24:04.260 --> 00:24:05.733 So there's one more to go, 556 00:24:07.620 --> 00:24:11.610 which is the third shipwreck site that will be examined 557 00:24:11.610 --> 00:24:14.040 and is located in the Mallows Bay-Potomac River 558 00:24:14.040 --> 00:24:16.410 National Marine Sanctuaries designated 559 00:24:16.410 --> 00:24:19.950 as site 114 or 18CH616. 560 00:24:19.950 --> 00:24:23.310 The wreck was first recorded in 1996 by Don Shomette. 561 00:24:23.310 --> 00:24:24.690 The site lies on its keel 562 00:24:24.690 --> 00:24:26.730 close to the shore of Liverpool Cove 563 00:24:26.730 --> 00:24:29.280 and is submerged in roughly three feet of water. 564 00:24:29.280 --> 00:24:30.540 The shipwreck is double-ended 565 00:24:30.540 --> 00:24:34.893 and measures about 46.5 feet long and about 14 feet wide. 566 00:24:37.350 --> 00:24:40.500 Remaining features of the site include multiple frames, 567 00:24:40.500 --> 00:24:43.410 two large mass steps and a centerboard case. 568 00:24:43.410 --> 00:24:45.360 The forward mass step is indicative 569 00:24:45.360 --> 00:24:47.310 of Chesapeake Bay built craft, 570 00:24:47.310 --> 00:24:49.170 which were built from multiple wooden pieces. 571 00:24:49.170 --> 00:24:51.180 However, the aft mast step 572 00:24:51.180 --> 00:24:54.330 appears to be cut directly into one large frame piece 573 00:24:54.330 --> 00:24:55.320 and might possibly be 574 00:24:55.320 --> 00:24:57.750 a regionally specific shipbuilding feature 575 00:24:57.750 --> 00:25:02.280 or something that was added as a repair. 576 00:25:02.280 --> 00:25:04.230 Shomette suggests that the shipwreck was a sharpie, 577 00:25:04.230 --> 00:25:05.970 likely used as a turtle scrape. 578 00:25:05.970 --> 00:25:08.213 Sharpies however, are flat bottom boats 579 00:25:08.213 --> 00:25:10.110 and have a hard turn of the bilge. 580 00:25:10.110 --> 00:25:12.720 They're not double-ended, they do not have rounded frames 581 00:25:12.720 --> 00:25:15.390 and they rarely exceed lengths of 35 feet. 582 00:25:15.390 --> 00:25:17.520 The wreck only has two mast steps, 583 00:25:17.520 --> 00:25:20.010 even though sharpies often had three mast steps 584 00:25:20.010 --> 00:25:22.830 if they reached over 27 feet in length. 585 00:25:22.830 --> 00:25:27.830 From simply comparing the recorded dimensions of site 114 586 00:25:30.570 --> 00:25:31.557 to known sharpies and bugeyes, 587 00:25:31.557 --> 00:25:33.210 the construction feature suggests 588 00:25:33.210 --> 00:25:34.470 that the wreck is more likely to be 589 00:25:34.470 --> 00:25:36.240 a plank and frame built bugeye. 590 00:25:36.240 --> 00:25:39.300 This was actually the site I was going to originally survey 591 00:25:39.300 --> 00:25:42.270 for my thesis before COVID canceled the project. 592 00:25:42.270 --> 00:25:43.770 Seems that with or without COVID 593 00:25:43.770 --> 00:25:46.370 I was going to be examining a bugeye no matter what. 594 00:25:48.210 --> 00:25:50.640 The primary research goal for this project relates 595 00:25:50.640 --> 00:25:53.160 to the information that will be discovered from historical 596 00:25:53.160 --> 00:25:56.343 and archeological investigations of the three bugeye sites. 597 00:25:58.050 --> 00:25:59.640 The main research questions are, 598 00:25:59.640 --> 00:26:01.950 how did Bugeye construction differ 599 00:26:01.950 --> 00:26:04.020 from individual ship builders, 600 00:26:04.020 --> 00:26:06.180 and can evidence of these differences be gathered 601 00:26:06.180 --> 00:26:07.950 from the archeological record? 602 00:26:07.950 --> 00:26:10.050 Secondary research questions include, 603 00:26:10.050 --> 00:26:11.370 what can be learned about bugeyes 604 00:26:11.370 --> 00:26:13.800 through the historical data obtained through oral histories, 605 00:26:13.800 --> 00:26:16.620 journals, ships, plans and photographs, 606 00:26:16.620 --> 00:26:19.380 and how many variations of the bugeye type were built? 607 00:26:19.380 --> 00:26:20.910 Can these variations be determined 608 00:26:20.910 --> 00:26:22.650 in the archeological record? 609 00:26:22.650 --> 00:26:25.113 So these are all things I hope to answer. 610 00:26:25.950 --> 00:26:28.290 For my initial project that was thankfully funded 611 00:26:28.290 --> 00:26:30.300 by the Institute of Nautical Archeology. 612 00:26:30.300 --> 00:26:32.640 I traveled to the major maritime museums 613 00:26:32.640 --> 00:26:34.710 around the Chesapeake Bay region last summer 614 00:26:34.710 --> 00:26:36.090 to research in their archives 615 00:26:36.090 --> 00:26:38.580 and obtained copies of historical photographs 616 00:26:38.580 --> 00:26:39.600 and examine the artifacts 617 00:26:39.600 --> 00:26:41.550 and hull remains the museums contained. 618 00:26:43.080 --> 00:26:44.820 I spent two weeks visiting museums, 619 00:26:44.820 --> 00:26:47.160 which included the Chesapeake Bay Maritime Museum, 620 00:26:47.160 --> 00:26:49.980 Calvert Marine Museum and The Mariners' Museum, 621 00:26:49.980 --> 00:26:51.423 as well as a few others. 622 00:26:53.100 --> 00:26:55.800 I was able to examine artifacts, ships plans, 623 00:26:55.800 --> 00:26:58.560 historic newspapers and oral history interviews. 624 00:26:58.560 --> 00:26:59.790 The main source I examined 625 00:26:59.790 --> 00:27:02.040 were the hundreds of historical photographs 626 00:27:02.040 --> 00:27:03.843 related to the oyster industry. 627 00:27:06.930 --> 00:27:09.120 Many of these photographs depicted different bugeyes 628 00:27:09.120 --> 00:27:12.360 under sail, docked, and some that were wrecked. 629 00:27:12.360 --> 00:27:14.790 Luckily, most of them were labeled with the vessel's name, 630 00:27:14.790 --> 00:27:17.370 place and the date the photograph was taken, 631 00:27:17.370 --> 00:27:18.393 as you can see here. 632 00:27:21.240 --> 00:27:23.400 I think the final number of photographs I requested 633 00:27:23.400 --> 00:27:26.284 from just one museum alone was about 94. 634 00:27:26.284 --> 00:27:28.833 So there's a lot of material out there. 635 00:27:30.390 --> 00:27:32.790 There was also a small collection of note cards 636 00:27:32.790 --> 00:27:35.280 with all known information regarding specific bugeyes. 637 00:27:35.280 --> 00:27:36.690 This ended up being a great source 638 00:27:36.690 --> 00:27:39.330 that led me to other places in the archive 639 00:27:39.330 --> 00:27:41.130 of the Chesapeake Bay Maritime Museum 640 00:27:41.130 --> 00:27:42.840 that had useful material 641 00:27:42.840 --> 00:27:44.990 that I likely would not have found without. 642 00:27:46.260 --> 00:27:48.420 And this included this image of a vessel 643 00:27:48.420 --> 00:27:50.940 that was labeled "Bugeye Bessie Lafayette, 644 00:27:50.940 --> 00:27:55.023 abandoned Mallow Bay," and was taken sometime in the 1950s. 645 00:27:57.300 --> 00:28:00.030 This could potentially be an image of site 114 646 00:28:00.030 --> 00:28:02.010 and appears to be in the same location of the wreck, 647 00:28:02.010 --> 00:28:03.840 which is very important for my project. 648 00:28:03.840 --> 00:28:05.493 I was very excited to find this. 649 00:28:07.530 --> 00:28:09.330 Someone included a little doodle of a bugeye 650 00:28:09.330 --> 00:28:10.710 in one of the collections at some point 651 00:28:10.710 --> 00:28:12.630 and they sealed it in plastic to preserve it. 652 00:28:12.630 --> 00:28:14.080 And I thought that was great. 653 00:28:15.630 --> 00:28:18.000 The archives had a lot of photographs 654 00:28:18.000 --> 00:28:20.650 of schooner rig bugeyes that I had never seen before. 655 00:28:22.470 --> 00:28:23.880 They also had a few images 656 00:28:23.880 --> 00:28:26.180 of plank and frame bugeyes under construction. 657 00:28:28.410 --> 00:28:30.450 These will be very beneficial to my project 658 00:28:30.450 --> 00:28:32.460 and are likely the only images taken 659 00:28:32.460 --> 00:28:34.173 of a bugeye being constructed. 660 00:28:36.870 --> 00:28:39.820 There were also multiple photographs of bugeyes under sail. 661 00:28:43.290 --> 00:28:45.360 Here you can see this bugeye dredging 662 00:28:45.360 --> 00:28:47.733 and the large piles of oysters on deck. 663 00:28:52.140 --> 00:28:53.580 This is a bugeye that was converted 664 00:28:53.580 --> 00:28:57.423 to gas propeller propulsion and a deck house was added. 665 00:29:01.740 --> 00:29:04.080 But probably one of the most important sources 666 00:29:04.080 --> 00:29:07.650 at one of the museums was the hull remains of a bugeye 667 00:29:07.650 --> 00:29:09.420 that they had displayed on the wall 668 00:29:09.420 --> 00:29:10.670 in their small boat shed. 669 00:29:13.680 --> 00:29:15.990 Even though a small portion of the vessel remains, 670 00:29:15.990 --> 00:29:18.540 there were some very interesting features of these timbers. 671 00:29:18.540 --> 00:29:20.820 The first feature was how the initial curve 672 00:29:20.820 --> 00:29:22.860 of the bottom of the centerboard well 673 00:29:22.860 --> 00:29:25.593 is shaped from the log itself, as you can see here. 674 00:29:27.420 --> 00:29:29.940 The second feature is pretty interesting. 675 00:29:29.940 --> 00:29:33.003 There's still an impression of where the ma step was placed. 676 00:29:36.420 --> 00:29:39.720 And the final feature that I noticed was that these logs 677 00:29:39.720 --> 00:29:43.770 were not pinned together as is typical for bugeyes 678 00:29:43.770 --> 00:29:45.720 and the only historically recorded method 679 00:29:45.720 --> 00:29:48.783 for connecting two logs that I have come across so far. 680 00:29:50.220 --> 00:29:52.110 Instead, they're connected by pegged mortis 681 00:29:52.110 --> 00:29:54.930 and tenon joints, which is a building tradition 682 00:29:54.930 --> 00:29:58.683 I have yet to see recorded historically for these boats. 683 00:30:00.390 --> 00:30:02.190 These remains are noteworthy to my project 684 00:30:02.190 --> 00:30:03.630 and I plan on working with the museum 685 00:30:03.630 --> 00:30:05.133 to further evaluate them. 686 00:30:07.290 --> 00:30:10.200 To finish up, multiple aspects of my dissertation project 687 00:30:10.200 --> 00:30:12.840 are historically and archeologically significant. 688 00:30:12.840 --> 00:30:14.853 There are building traditions of the Chesapeake Bay bugeyes 689 00:30:14.853 --> 00:30:17.010 that were not historically documented 690 00:30:17.010 --> 00:30:20.100 and can only be determined through archeological remains. 691 00:30:20.100 --> 00:30:22.650 Determining the differences in the construction styles 692 00:30:22.650 --> 00:30:23.940 of the sites would be significant 693 00:30:23.940 --> 00:30:25.690 due to the rarity of these vessels. 694 00:30:27.240 --> 00:30:29.040 Only a few confirmed bugeye sites 695 00:30:29.040 --> 00:30:31.140 have been documented archeologically 696 00:30:31.140 --> 00:30:32.940 and the bugeye Edna E. Lockwood 697 00:30:32.940 --> 00:30:34.590 of the Chesapeake Bay Maritime Museum 698 00:30:34.590 --> 00:30:37.020 is the last remaining log hulled sailing bugeye 699 00:30:37.020 --> 00:30:38.133 that still exists. 700 00:30:40.110 --> 00:30:42.870 Examining the history of the Chesapeake Bay oyster industry 701 00:30:42.870 --> 00:30:44.940 through the archeological remains of these vessels 702 00:30:44.940 --> 00:30:46.650 will provide more information 703 00:30:46.650 --> 00:30:48.750 to the historical narrative of the region. 704 00:30:50.700 --> 00:30:52.470 Thank you all so much for joining me today, 705 00:30:52.470 --> 00:30:54.510 and I would like to thank everyone that has helped me 706 00:30:54.510 --> 00:30:55.893 with this project so far. 707 00:30:56.760 --> 00:30:59.135 So if there are any questions, 708 00:30:59.135 --> 00:31:01.380 I'd be able to have them. 709 00:31:01.380 --> 00:31:02.730 [Shannon Ricles] All right, just a second 710 00:31:02.730 --> 00:31:04.863 and I'll put up our question page. 711 00:31:06.060 --> 00:31:08.943 I'm gonna take the controls back from you. 712 00:31:11.880 --> 00:31:13.080 All right. 713 00:31:13.080 --> 00:31:16.230 So if you have not entered any questions 714 00:31:16.230 --> 00:31:19.980 into the question box yet, feel free to do so at this time. 715 00:31:19.980 --> 00:31:22.980 And also if you haven't downloaded Patrick's bio 716 00:31:22.980 --> 00:31:25.980 in the chat box, you might want to do that also now. 717 00:31:25.980 --> 00:31:28.200 In the bio you'll find more information about Patrick 718 00:31:28.200 --> 00:31:30.720 and some links that might be of interest to you. 719 00:31:30.720 --> 00:31:33.600 So let's look at our question box 720 00:31:33.600 --> 00:31:36.840 and see what we have coming forward. 721 00:31:36.840 --> 00:31:38.523 Let's see, undock it, there we go. 722 00:31:40.117 --> 00:31:44.670 "Since you study sailboats, are you also a sailor? 723 00:31:44.670 --> 00:31:47.217 Do you like sailing a sailboat?" 724 00:31:49.320 --> 00:31:51.628 I have been sailing quite a few times. 725 00:31:51.628 --> 00:31:54.480 It definitely helps kind of understanding 726 00:31:54.480 --> 00:31:56.520 the boats we study. 727 00:31:56.520 --> 00:31:59.790 Last summer, I had the opportunity to sail for two weeks 728 00:31:59.790 --> 00:32:03.810 on a tall ship named Lady Washington in Washington State. 729 00:32:03.810 --> 00:32:06.090 And that was fantastic. Yeah, I loved it. 730 00:32:06.090 --> 00:32:08.184 I would do it every summer if I could. 731 00:32:08.184 --> 00:32:12.483 So yeah, I do sail on occasion and it definitely helps. 732 00:32:13.800 --> 00:32:16.073 Okay, another question is, 733 00:32:16.073 --> 00:32:16.906 "Do you know about how many bugeye boats were built total?" 734 00:32:21.840 --> 00:32:24.930 There have been about 600 recorded. 735 00:32:24.930 --> 00:32:27.840 I imagine that's actually a lot higher though, 736 00:32:27.840 --> 00:32:30.390 'cause the vessel that predated bugeyes, the pungy, 737 00:32:30.390 --> 00:32:32.217 I think there was about 1,000 of those, 738 00:32:32.217 --> 00:32:34.290 and they were only used for a couple decades. 739 00:32:34.290 --> 00:32:36.963 So at least 600 bugeyes, but probably more. 740 00:32:37.860 --> 00:32:38.693 Okay. 741 00:32:38.693 --> 00:32:41.130 Jessie, do you have a question that you'd like to ask? 742 00:32:41.130 --> 00:32:42.930 I personally have several questions, 743 00:32:42.930 --> 00:32:47.930 but let's start with how many crew members 744 00:32:48.570 --> 00:32:50.250 would typically be on board 745 00:32:50.250 --> 00:32:53.373 and about how long would they go out for? 746 00:32:55.800 --> 00:33:00.510 I think the minimum that I've read 747 00:33:00.510 --> 00:33:02.703 was about two people could handle a bugeye, 748 00:33:04.350 --> 00:33:08.190 but I think it was anywhere from like around six or eight 749 00:33:08.190 --> 00:33:09.330 would be the typical crew, 750 00:33:09.330 --> 00:33:13.020 'cause you would have to have people on the sails, 751 00:33:13.020 --> 00:33:16.980 steering and then actually loading an offloading the dredge 752 00:33:16.980 --> 00:33:18.180 and things like that. 753 00:33:18.180 --> 00:33:23.040 And the bugeyes would typically go out for just like a day. 754 00:33:23.040 --> 00:33:26.223 They would go, it would depend on where they were, 755 00:33:27.330 --> 00:33:29.700 but yeah, not so much longer voyages, 756 00:33:29.700 --> 00:33:32.370 although some bugeye were actually used on longer trips 757 00:33:32.370 --> 00:33:34.680 down to the Caribbean to get fruit. 758 00:33:34.680 --> 00:33:36.093 So it kind of depended. 759 00:33:36.984 --> 00:33:38.280 Okay. 760 00:33:38.280 --> 00:33:41.610 Another question asked, "What sonar gear did you use 761 00:33:41.610 --> 00:33:43.110 for the Centerboard Wreck site, 762 00:33:43.110 --> 00:33:45.262 since it's only in three feet of water?" 763 00:33:45.262 --> 00:33:48.570 They're wondering because they thought that sonar needed 764 00:33:48.570 --> 00:33:50.703 to be in deeper water. 765 00:33:51.720 --> 00:33:55.893 Yeah, it was a typical Klein, I forget which model, 766 00:33:57.570 --> 00:34:02.570 but we were able to do it by kind of like floating it 767 00:34:03.120 --> 00:34:04.710 and going real slow. 768 00:34:04.710 --> 00:34:07.440 But yeah, most bigger sonar systems 769 00:34:07.440 --> 00:34:10.050 you would want a lot more clearance. 770 00:34:10.050 --> 00:34:11.700 But yeah, you can get pretty shallow with them 771 00:34:11.700 --> 00:34:13.400 if you've got the right equipment. 772 00:34:15.100 --> 00:34:16.203 Okay. Jessie? 773 00:34:17.760 --> 00:34:20.400 Someone asked if you could or if you had 774 00:34:20.400 --> 00:34:23.880 any more information about the African American crew 775 00:34:23.880 --> 00:34:26.910 and whether or not they were also builders 776 00:34:26.910 --> 00:34:28.173 or just crew members? 777 00:34:29.370 --> 00:34:30.660 I'm not sure about the builders, 778 00:34:30.660 --> 00:34:32.910 but yeah, most crews were African Americans 779 00:34:32.910 --> 00:34:37.890 and most workers at the oyster facilities 780 00:34:39.300 --> 00:34:41.730 were African Americans and women. 781 00:34:41.730 --> 00:34:46.410 So both groups played a very significant role 782 00:34:46.410 --> 00:34:47.970 in the oyster industry, 783 00:34:47.970 --> 00:34:50.580 and there's a lot of photographs out there, 784 00:34:50.580 --> 00:34:52.230 so there's definitely more research to be done 785 00:34:52.230 --> 00:34:54.963 and I plan on adding that to my dissertation. 786 00:34:57.022 --> 00:35:00.132 Okay. We'll have to have you back to talk about it. 787 00:35:00.132 --> 00:35:01.293 Another question asked, 788 00:35:01.293 --> 00:35:04.950 would bugeyes have also gone north from Baltimore 789 00:35:04.950 --> 00:35:06.423 or did they just go south? 790 00:35:07.890 --> 00:35:10.690 They definitely would've gone to other sounds as well. 791 00:35:11.670 --> 00:35:14.010 I haven't really delved into that yet, 792 00:35:14.010 --> 00:35:16.770 but I do know that as the Chesapeake Bay fishers 793 00:35:16.770 --> 00:35:18.180 went searching for other sounds, 794 00:35:18.180 --> 00:35:21.780 they did go up toward New York and Delaware, so yeah. 795 00:35:22.870 --> 00:35:24.480 Okay. 796 00:35:24.480 --> 00:35:27.367 And another question that I have is, 797 00:35:27.367 --> 00:35:29.520 "Where were the bugeyes mostly constructed? 798 00:35:29.520 --> 00:35:31.830 Were they constructed by individuals 799 00:35:31.830 --> 00:35:34.590 or was there a ship building facility 800 00:35:34.590 --> 00:35:35.877 that constructed them?" 801 00:35:36.720 --> 00:35:39.033 There were a few, and it's mostly in Maryland. 802 00:35:39.900 --> 00:35:42.000 A couple of bugeyes were built in Virginia, 803 00:35:42.000 --> 00:35:43.300 but these are pretty rare. 804 00:35:44.970 --> 00:35:48.150 But yeah, there's a few specific places in Maryland 805 00:35:48.150 --> 00:35:50.730 that most of the bugeyes were built. 806 00:35:50.730 --> 00:35:55.293 Okay. Jessie, do you have any questions? 807 00:35:56.550 --> 00:36:00.690 Another question in the chat asked about buyboats 808 00:36:00.690 --> 00:36:03.140 and if you had come across them in your research. 809 00:36:04.560 --> 00:36:09.000 Yeah, so the buyboat were kind of their solution 810 00:36:09.000 --> 00:36:12.450 before the bugeye became prominent. 811 00:36:12.450 --> 00:36:15.930 All of these oyster boats that had the deeper hulls, 812 00:36:15.930 --> 00:36:18.660 they would go out and they would dredge the deep waters, 813 00:36:18.660 --> 00:36:21.960 and instead of just catching a bunch of oysters 814 00:36:21.960 --> 00:36:24.000 and then sailing all the way back to port, 815 00:36:24.000 --> 00:36:26.910 they would actually offload all of their oysters 816 00:36:26.910 --> 00:36:28.560 onto these other boats 817 00:36:28.560 --> 00:36:30.780 that would kind of buy all of the oysters 818 00:36:30.780 --> 00:36:31.890 from them directly, 819 00:36:31.890 --> 00:36:34.530 and then those buyboats would go back to the port, 820 00:36:34.530 --> 00:36:38.283 so that they could just keep dredging all day. 821 00:36:40.920 --> 00:36:41.763 Okay. 822 00:36:42.750 --> 00:36:46.200 Are you contemplating a scale model of the remains 823 00:36:46.200 --> 00:36:50.730 as has been done in the TAMU for in many years, 824 00:36:50.730 --> 00:36:55.290 and/or a scale model of the reconstructed vessel 825 00:36:55.290 --> 00:36:58.890 for your outboard profile? 826 00:36:58.890 --> 00:37:00.750 Yeah, actually that's part of it. 827 00:37:00.750 --> 00:37:03.330 So what I hope to do is record all the timbers, 828 00:37:03.330 --> 00:37:05.670 reconstruct them all digitally as well. 829 00:37:05.670 --> 00:37:08.190 So there'll be like three dimensional models and things. 830 00:37:08.190 --> 00:37:13.190 And there is a model ship builder here 831 00:37:13.380 --> 00:37:16.830 that works all in wood and it's beautiful and fantastic. 832 00:37:16.830 --> 00:37:18.810 I definitely don't have the skill for that, 833 00:37:18.810 --> 00:37:23.810 but instead we have the ability to or print out 834 00:37:23.850 --> 00:37:25.830 the digital reconstructions on 3D printers 835 00:37:25.830 --> 00:37:27.570 and kind of put them all back together. 836 00:37:27.570 --> 00:37:30.183 So I hope to do something like that for the program. 837 00:37:31.274 --> 00:37:32.670 Okay. 838 00:37:32.670 --> 00:37:35.550 And someone asked, they're saying they're just curious, 839 00:37:35.550 --> 00:37:37.230 what is the vessel represented 840 00:37:37.230 --> 00:37:40.563 by the half model behind you with gunports? 841 00:37:41.490 --> 00:37:45.450 Oh, this should be the Jefferson. 842 00:37:45.450 --> 00:37:50.450 My advisor drew that, and he's a great artist. 843 00:37:52.292 --> 00:37:53.459 Okay. Yeah. 844 00:37:55.230 --> 00:37:56.820 Jessie, I don't see any more questions. 845 00:37:56.820 --> 00:37:58.830 Are you seeing any more? 846 00:37:58.830 --> 00:38:02.400 Not in the chat, but I would love to know more 847 00:38:02.400 --> 00:38:04.200 about the artifacts that you found. 848 00:38:04.200 --> 00:38:06.090 I know you showed a couple of pictures. 849 00:38:06.090 --> 00:38:11.090 Were there any that were particularly surprising 850 00:38:11.280 --> 00:38:14.673 or one that you liked better than another? 851 00:38:16.620 --> 00:38:18.597 Good question. Yeah, there were quite a few. 852 00:38:18.597 --> 00:38:20.820 And there were a few that I could not figure out 853 00:38:20.820 --> 00:38:23.910 what they were, but probably just related 854 00:38:23.910 --> 00:38:25.680 to like the rigging elements and stuff. 855 00:38:25.680 --> 00:38:29.580 But I do think the dredge rake was the most indicative 856 00:38:29.580 --> 00:38:32.970 and probably my favorite, 857 00:38:32.970 --> 00:38:34.380 'cause it was one of the first we found 858 00:38:34.380 --> 00:38:37.473 and it kind of identifies it as an oyster boat. 859 00:38:39.180 --> 00:38:42.600 And Patrick, you said that you returned, you drew them 860 00:38:42.600 --> 00:38:45.510 and then you returned them all to their original location 861 00:38:45.510 --> 00:38:46.623 back in the water. 862 00:38:47.670 --> 00:38:50.010 Were there any that you wanted to conserve 863 00:38:50.010 --> 00:38:53.370 or that you think should be conserved in the future? 864 00:38:53.370 --> 00:38:54.750 Not really. 865 00:38:54.750 --> 00:38:59.750 I'd rather leave them all for the next person 866 00:38:59.880 --> 00:39:01.290 who goes and looks at the site, 867 00:39:01.290 --> 00:39:06.290 maybe they have better ways of conserving things. 868 00:39:07.050 --> 00:39:08.700 So yeah, I think just leaving them in place 869 00:39:08.700 --> 00:39:10.143 was the best option. 870 00:39:11.070 --> 00:39:12.813 Okay. All right. 871 00:39:14.340 --> 00:39:17.490 And one other question that I had is, 872 00:39:17.490 --> 00:39:20.220 is the oyster industry in North Carolina flourishing? 873 00:39:20.220 --> 00:39:23.733 Is it alive and well today or is it not? 874 00:39:25.050 --> 00:39:26.130 I wouldn't say so. 875 00:39:26.130 --> 00:39:28.620 I think it's still like a smaller local thing, 876 00:39:28.620 --> 00:39:30.780 which was originally, which is probably better, 877 00:39:30.780 --> 00:39:32.553 especially for the oyster beds. 878 00:39:33.900 --> 00:39:37.680 But yeah, a lot of that has to do with the dredging 879 00:39:37.680 --> 00:39:40.650 that occurred historically, but also a lot of diseases 880 00:39:40.650 --> 00:39:44.100 that kind of wiped out the oyster population. 881 00:39:44.100 --> 00:39:45.633 Right. Okay. 882 00:39:47.580 --> 00:39:50.370 All right. Any other questions coming in? 883 00:39:50.370 --> 00:39:53.640 We had a question come in asking you what you plan to do 884 00:39:53.640 --> 00:39:56.013 after your PhD. 885 00:39:57.300 --> 00:39:58.950 I'd like to be a professor one day. 886 00:39:58.950 --> 00:40:01.260 That's kind of why you get your PhD in this field, 887 00:40:01.260 --> 00:40:05.927 but those jobs are very rare, so I have no idea, 888 00:40:05.927 --> 00:40:09.150 in the meantime still just trying to focus 889 00:40:09.150 --> 00:40:10.250 on getting outta here. 890 00:40:12.189 --> 00:40:16.500 Okay. And I think that's all the questions we have. 891 00:40:16.500 --> 00:40:17.550 I can't see anything else. 892 00:40:17.550 --> 00:40:18.383 There's a comment, 893 00:40:18.383 --> 00:40:22.140 but I'll forward that on to you after the chat. 894 00:40:22.140 --> 00:40:23.070 Oh, here comes one. 895 00:40:23.070 --> 00:40:24.960 It says, "You mentioned that coastal erosion 896 00:40:24.960 --> 00:40:26.070 was exposing wrecks. 897 00:40:26.070 --> 00:40:29.250 Do you think that continual changes in climate 898 00:40:29.250 --> 00:40:31.167 and sea levels will affect the work?" 899 00:40:32.040 --> 00:40:33.750 Absolutely. 900 00:40:33.750 --> 00:40:37.350 One of my friends from ECU is working on her dissertation 901 00:40:37.350 --> 00:40:42.350 all about how erosion and hurricanes and weather factors 902 00:40:44.430 --> 00:40:47.317 will affect shipwrecks in the long term. 903 00:40:47.317 --> 00:40:49.867 So it's definitely something we should be studying. 904 00:40:51.236 --> 00:40:52.069 Okay. 905 00:40:57.600 --> 00:40:59.073 I don't see anything else. 906 00:41:00.030 --> 00:41:01.893 That everybody, well. All right. 907 00:41:02.940 --> 00:41:03.773 All right. Well we'll go on with 908 00:41:03.773 --> 00:41:04.606 the rest of our obligatories 909 00:41:07.740 --> 00:41:11.013 So if you... I'm sorry, Jessie, this is your slide. 910 00:41:14.370 --> 00:41:17.010 So if you did send in a question 911 00:41:17.010 --> 00:41:20.613 after we were finished answering them, 912 00:41:21.990 --> 00:41:26.190 you can send additional ones to the email 913 00:41:26.190 --> 00:41:28.653 listed on this slide. 914 00:41:29.520 --> 00:41:31.470 You can also learn more about 915 00:41:31.470 --> 00:41:34.620 Texas A&M'S nautical archeological program 916 00:41:34.620 --> 00:41:36.783 at the URL listed above as well. 917 00:41:39.300 --> 00:41:41.768 A video recording of the presentation will be available 918 00:41:41.768 --> 00:41:44.430 on the Sanctuaries' webinar archives page. 919 00:41:44.430 --> 00:41:46.890 It's found at that URL listed there at the top, 920 00:41:46.890 --> 00:41:48.510 but it's a long one, so don't worry, 921 00:41:48.510 --> 00:41:51.213 we're gonna send that information to you in an email. 922 00:41:52.140 --> 00:41:54.090 In addition, the webinar will be archived 923 00:41:54.090 --> 00:41:57.060 on Monitor National Marine Sanctuary's website, 924 00:41:57.060 --> 00:41:59.280 and you'll just click on the multimedia section 925 00:41:59.280 --> 00:42:02.040 in the toolbar to access the webinar box. 926 00:42:02.040 --> 00:42:05.490 It usually takes us about 10 days to get the webinar posted 927 00:42:05.490 --> 00:42:07.980 because we have to have it captioned first. 928 00:42:07.980 --> 00:42:09.900 And so you'll find this webinar 929 00:42:09.900 --> 00:42:12.150 and all the future webinars in that same section. 930 00:42:12.150 --> 00:42:13.620 And don't worry, again, as I said, 931 00:42:13.620 --> 00:42:15.820 all of this will be sent to you in an email. 932 00:42:16.890 --> 00:42:18.000 We also want to highlight 933 00:42:18.000 --> 00:42:20.070 some of the upcoming sanctuaries webinars. 934 00:42:20.070 --> 00:42:23.220 So this evening at 6:00 PM Eastern time, 935 00:42:23.220 --> 00:42:25.380 you can learn more about the new curriculum, 936 00:42:25.380 --> 00:42:28.020 Exploring Ocean Mysteries from Dynamic Shores 937 00:42:28.020 --> 00:42:29.280 to the Deep Sea, 938 00:42:29.280 --> 00:42:30.660 learn how the lessons focus 939 00:42:30.660 --> 00:42:33.900 on the seven ocean literacy principles, climate literacy, 940 00:42:33.900 --> 00:42:36.240 and use the National Marine Sanctuary System 941 00:42:36.240 --> 00:42:38.970 as an engaging backdrop that helps students understand 942 00:42:38.970 --> 00:42:41.190 the importance for exploration, research, 943 00:42:41.190 --> 00:42:43.113 indigenous cultures and more. 944 00:42:45.630 --> 00:42:49.740 And tomorrow, tune in for Marissa Nuttall, 945 00:42:49.740 --> 00:42:51.000 a research specialist 946 00:42:51.000 --> 00:42:53.820 at Flower Garden Banks National Marine Sanctuary, 947 00:42:53.820 --> 00:42:55.320 as she talks about understanding 948 00:42:55.320 --> 00:42:57.300 where fish spend their time on the reef 949 00:42:57.300 --> 00:42:59.100 and how that is critical part 950 00:42:59.100 --> 00:43:01.710 to effective resource management. 951 00:43:01.710 --> 00:43:04.120 Come and learn how a network of instruments 952 00:43:05.306 --> 00:43:08.220 is being used to track fish around the sanctuary 953 00:43:08.220 --> 00:43:10.503 and some of the interesting findings so far. 954 00:43:12.420 --> 00:43:15.600 And our next Submerged North Carolina webinar 955 00:43:15.600 --> 00:43:16.980 will be on March the sixth. 956 00:43:16.980 --> 00:43:20.520 Join John Pentangelo, director of the Hampton Roads 957 00:43:20.520 --> 00:43:22.470 Naval Museum in Norfolk, Virginia 958 00:43:22.470 --> 00:43:24.810 for a discussion on the USS Cumberland, 959 00:43:24.810 --> 00:43:27.000 which fought at the Battle of Hampton Roads 960 00:43:27.000 --> 00:43:28.830 during the American Civil War. 961 00:43:28.830 --> 00:43:33.000 Learn how on March 8th CSS Virginia 962 00:43:33.000 --> 00:43:35.580 destroyed both the Cumberland and the Congress, 963 00:43:35.580 --> 00:43:37.560 leading to the US Navy's worst defeat 964 00:43:37.560 --> 00:43:40.020 since it began in 1775. 965 00:43:40.020 --> 00:43:42.570 This discussion will focus on Cumberland's sinking, 966 00:43:42.570 --> 00:43:44.400 the cruise response to the attack, 967 00:43:44.400 --> 00:43:45.930 public memory of the ordeal, 968 00:43:45.930 --> 00:43:48.993 and the recovery of artifacts from the wreck. 969 00:43:51.270 --> 00:43:54.420 Another good way to learn about future webinars 970 00:43:54.420 --> 00:43:56.970 is to follow us on social media. 971 00:43:56.970 --> 00:43:59.250 I would love to see your comments 972 00:43:59.250 --> 00:44:00.600 and your interaction there. 973 00:44:03.960 --> 00:44:06.060 Alright, lastly, as you exit the webinar, 974 00:44:06.060 --> 00:44:09.090 there is a short survey for formal and informal educators. 975 00:44:09.090 --> 00:44:12.030 So if you are an educator, NOAA would really appreciate it 976 00:44:12.030 --> 00:44:14.550 if you would take a minute or two to complete the survey. 977 00:44:14.550 --> 00:44:17.190 Your answers will help NOAA develop future webinars 978 00:44:17.190 --> 00:44:18.360 to meet your needs. 979 00:44:18.360 --> 00:44:20.250 Your participation is voluntary 980 00:44:20.250 --> 00:44:22.863 and your answers will be completely anonymous. 981 00:44:25.260 --> 00:44:27.150 So once again, we want to thank Patrick 982 00:44:27.150 --> 00:44:29.310 for a fabulous presentation, and thank you 983 00:44:29.310 --> 00:44:31.950 for taking the time out of your day today to join us. 984 00:44:31.950 --> 00:44:32.850 Have a wonderful day, 985 00:44:32.850 --> 00:44:35.370 and this concludes the presentation for all. 986 00:44:35.370 --> 00:44:37.563 Thanks and have a good day. Bye.